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  • jozeaphe - Sunday, February 17, 2008 - link

    Hi Guys i Just Build a new PC :
    Asus Maximus Formula SE .
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 .
    2 GB Ram - 800 MHz ( for the moment ) .

    can any one help to overclock my PC to Max settings within the following :
    1. Stock Intel CPU heatsink\fan ( come with processor ) . No water cooling on the northbridge .

    2. Stock Intel CPU heatsink\fan ( come with processor ) . With water cooling on the northbridge .

    3. The above 2 options but using 2 GB Ram - 1066 ( if thats make a difference ) .

    And Thank u All , Jozeaphe@gmail.com .
  • guitronics - Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - link

    I don't know if I have an 'SE',but I have the game Stalker.These Mobo's are NHRA Top Fueler's, not 18 wheeler's. They're Gaming 'Boards,not workstations,or servers.Their cause is overclocking/tweaking. So:Some legacy stuff hadda go...serial and parallel:Buy a PCI card,if you really need it.There are plenty of pci slots.No Esata? There are 6 Sata,and 1 IDE port.2 -GB Lan options.Yes,it does ECC:But why does a gamer want that?There are 1394a ports,not 800 Mhz.Or,at least that speed isn't documented.The USB mouse...it's time to get on the "dump legacy stuff" wagon.How big a deal is that?Up to 8 GB of memory,and onboard 0,1,5;and 10 Raid support.Put a Blu-Ray on the IDE,run raptors' in raid 0, still have room for > 4 < More drives....Terabyte's, anyone?
    A good case and you can swap 'em out...no big deal."It's a Gaming Machine"!
  • jay401 - Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - link

    I think we've officially reached the point of option saturation, where there are literally TOO many options in the BIOS for most overclockers to ever care about. Sure, it's great for the handful that will actually make use of all of those options, but we're getting dangerously close to the point where it is TMI.
  • RFV - Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - link

    you'd love the DFI BIOS!
  • RFV - Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - link

    I have read that the Asus Maximus Formula SE is now "End Of Line" so you better hurry if you want to purchase one. Asus did the same thing with the Blitz Formula SE, so this is not suprising news, the Maximus Formula SE was always going to be a limited edition board from the get go. Also, fom the reviews I have read on this board from people who upgraded from P35 boards is that the Maximus Formula SE X38 board required more volts than the Asus P5K Deluxe board to reach the same overclock. They also reported that the X38 boards generally ran hotter than the P35 boards at the same overclock.
  • 457R4LDR34DKN07 - Monday, November 12, 2007 - link

    Thanks for the in depth bios descriptions, it has helped me dramatically increase stability while using patriot pc8500 memory.
  • Etern205 - Saturday, November 10, 2007 - link

    What happened to the Maximus Extreme?
  • Raja Gill - Sunday, November 11, 2007 - link

    that's next
  • zoom314 - Saturday, November 10, 2007 - link

    I wonder does Asus still have Locked Multipliers on Extreme cpus still like they do on the P5W DH Deluxe? Meaning any multiplier above the Default Multiplier is locked off to prevent users from overclocking, rendering an Extreme Dual/Quad cpu an Expensive Normal Dual Core or Quad Core cpu(A QX6700 becomes a Q6700 cpu). Of course one can adjust the Multiplier downwards to 6 as Asus say No one needs those upper Multipliers and Hence Asus does Not Support Extreme any cpu!!!!
  • Raja Gill - Saturday, November 10, 2007 - link

    the upwards multipliers work fine on this board...
  • takumsawsherman - Saturday, November 10, 2007 - link

    Now, we have a close to $300 board, and what we get for that is no Firewire800 support. Amazing. But the sick part is that for $300, you also don't get:

    1. PS/2 mouse. Obviously too expensive to implement.
    2. Poorly attached cooling (a perennial issue dating back at least to A7N8X 2.0)
    3. No parallel or serial, not that anyone would use it. But I'm looking for something they could maybe afford to add when you drop $300 on a motherboard.
    4. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see eSATA, either.

    What a waste of time. Heck, I think the Tyan 1846S/L/A from 1998 had more features, and for $115. At the time, that seemed expensive. Great board, with great support. Now, off to the forums to see what issues the Maximus users are having. I'm betting it's not been all fun and games for them.

    Speaking of fun and games, in 1999, Tyan had a board with a front panel socket surrounding the front panel headers. When I called them, they said they were pushing for a standard interface for that pain in the butt stuff nobody likes to install. One connector. Never happened. Now, Asus should do the same thing. Instead of just moving it out of the case (which is better than the current system, I admit), why not put the connector on the board, and push other mobo manufacturers and case manufacturers to support it.
  • GlassHouse69 - Sunday, November 11, 2007 - link

    yeah. parallel and serial

    they are actually useful if you just dont load up your ipod and play l33t games that pwn.

    no firewire 800 also. it would be like a 50 cent piece of hardware. id say most 2 dollars.

    300 dollars equates to 15 dollars of rediculous cooler that is not needed, 25 dollars at most for the board, and the rest kiddie shit ripoff. People forget the articles 2 years about how much really a "high end" motherboard should cost.

    thanks for playing.
  • LoneWolf15 - Sunday, November 11, 2007 - link

    I couldn't agree more on the PS/2 ports. ASUS' decision to do this on their recent boards has caused me to strike them from my list. I use a KVM to allow me to troubleshoot the systems of others, and PS/2 still works the best for me in this.

    No eSATA ports on the backplate would be forgivable on a board that didn't cost this much, but at near $300, it's ridiculous. Admittedly, eSATA is kind of a future thing, but for the price, you should expect some future proofing. (I checked ASUS' website and found no mention of an eSATA port bracket either, so I'm guessing it's not there)

    I no longer need parallel, though serial is occasionally useful for console-port programming. As for FireWire 800, as much as I'd like to see it adopted, so far it's just not happening on the PC, and I won't fault ASUS for that.

    I think Gigabyte's GA-X38-DQ6 offers a better layout in almost every way except maybe the SATA ports (which is a judgement call - I like the front-port connectors ASUS uses, but they won't work well for every case). And Gigabyte is smart enough to provide both PS/2 ports while still fitting more USB ports, dual FireWire, and all the requisite audio ports. Gigabyte also has a well thought out eSATA port bracket.

    ASUS just loses out on this one. (note: that said, I'll never pay $300 for a mainboard.)
  • Missing Ghost - Saturday, November 10, 2007 - link

    I fully agree with you. 300$ is a lot for a board, for that price you can expect workstation quality. eSATA and serial COM ports are definitely ports that I do use. Also I'm sure the board has tons of problems since it's made by ASUS.
  • Axbattler - Saturday, November 10, 2007 - link

    1. I am not too offended by that. At least it has two more USB ports than Abit's iX38 Quad-GT. That said, Gigabyte can fit both two PS/2 and 8 USB ports in some boards (those without Serial/Parallel ports). It comes down to the connectivity you need - there is a finite amount of space at the back and you will sacrifice something. I'll take two USB ports over one PS/2.

    2. Problematic indeed.

    3. Goes back to point 1. I think it's acceptable for parallel or serial to go. Although optional brackets would've been nice. For the cost though, it is more appropriate in my view to see Firewire 800..

    4. ...and eSATA. What were they thinking? They are basically saying that if you want X38 and eSATA, you have to get a DDR3 boards.

    It looks like while price of Intel CPU today do not have a big mark up compared to AMD at their peak, top end motherboards based on the S775 is a lot more expensive than similarly classed motherboard back then. I remember that Asus's motherboard around the 939 chipset were around £130 back then, somewhat comparable than their top P35 offering today, but well short of most of their x38 - and the MaximusExtreme is close to £200.
  • Raja Gill - Saturday, November 10, 2007 - link

    Some of the points made do show how the makret for extreme products has changed over the last 18 months. For the ROG boards, the users who provide the greatest amount of 'heard' feedback are generally the extreme users. This is probably why the emphasis has shifted away from entry 'workstation level' ports. The ragged edge top end enthusiasts do not seem to mind sacrificing the additional ports for additional board speed, as they would see it at least. Additional peripheral ports do require extra BIOS code and onboard resources (not a great excuse from me, but one of the only ones I can really give). There is of course no justification one can provide in either direction that satisfies both types of users requirements. We can guess that cost and profit margins play a large part in decisions too. What we have seen in recent years is Asus also offerring 'WS' boards that are aimed at overall compatibility and the ports that general PC users deem essential. At this time we have no idea at this time if a WS level variant featuring the X38 chipset is planned.

    regards guys
    Raja
  • Axbattler - Saturday, November 10, 2007 - link

    Is the ROG series significantly better than the WS series when it comes to board speed/tweaks? Which board (out of any manufacturers) have the best fan monitoring/control of all (and in the event of a tie - which has the best layout/connectivity)?
  • IntelUser2000 - Friday, November 9, 2007 - link

    Boo on the useless expensive products!! Chipsets are the least beneficial in terms of R&D spent.
  • carpediem2u - Friday, November 9, 2007 - link

    I was wondering about this question due to this article.
    Could it be possible to disable of the dual cores in a Quad core CPU?

    Since they are made of two dual core CPU's?
  • Raja Gill - Friday, November 9, 2007 - link

    There is no function in 0505 BIOS to turn off a core or cores, I have not tried the later BIOS releases...

  • mbf - Friday, November 9, 2007 - link

    ...handle DDR2 ECC memory? I for one would like to know. ASUS seems to be of two (or possibly more) minds on the matter stating conflicting information all around the product pages for their respective X38 board offerings. Then again, the P5W DH Deluxe still seems like a smart choice, considering the very small performance delta between the i975x and later chipsets. Also, ASUS claims Penryn support for several of their "mature" offerings, including the P5W DH Deluxe.
  • AnnihilatorX - Friday, November 9, 2007 - link

    Personally I would recommend everyone including enthusiasts to not to buy over-priced performance RAMs.
    And of course looking at price at the moment to choose DDR2 over DDR3

    A low latency low frequency RAM are potentially *much* cheaper than a high frequency one. The performance discrepancy is at most 5% which relates to perhaps 2-3FPS in a game. This has probably the lowest cost-to-performance ratio of a system component.
  • steve4717 - Sunday, May 16, 2010 - link

    when will the new bios be ready, and i exspect it, this time to make it possible so it can see, ddr2 1066 at long last.
  • nleksan - Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - link

    I have been looking for a motherboard for a recently acquired (given to me free of charge) set of somewhat older but almost entirely unused (i.e. no more than 100hrs use on anything, most have around 20-40hrs; came from 9 different full-or-partial PC's) hardware including:
    - Core2Duo E8600 (under 20hrs use, known to run stable at 4.5Ghz on air, 4.9Ghz on water)
    - 4x2GB G.Skill DDR2-1066/1150 4-4-4-9
    - 4x1GB OCZ DDR2-1066 4-4-4-12
    - 3x 250GB Samsung Spinpoint SATA3Gbps HDD's
    - 2x 150GB WD VR SATA3Gbps 10krpm HDD's
    - 1x WD WD800BB 80GB SATA3Gbps HDD
    - 4x WD2500JB 250GB SATA HDD's
    - 3x WD Caviar Blue 320GB (AAKS) SATA3Gbps HDD's (repurposed for new X79 build)
    - 2x Seagate 7200.7 160GB E-IDE HDD's
    - 3x Hitachi Deskstar 320GB SATA3Gbps HDD's
    - Enermax 690W High-Efficiency PSU
    - Antec SOHO Server Case with 8x3.5" bays/5x5.25" bays (fits a Xigmatek 4x3.5-in-3x5.25 with 120x25mm fan converter nicely, for a total of 12xHDD's) and ripe for some heavy modifications
    OR
    - Thermaltake XASER V Limited Edition with 5x3.5" bays + 6x5.25" bays
    OR
    - Buy a new sub-$100 case for this (Rosewill ThorV2 would be nice for price, Antec 1100/1200/P283
    - DD Maze6 CPU Block
    - 2x DD Maze6 GPU Blocks
    - 3x Swiftech MCW82 GPU Blocks
    - Laing DDC3.25 + 2x Laing D5 Vario Pumps
    - Swiftech MCRES-Rev2
    - HWL Black Ice GTX 360 rad
    - HWL Black Ice GTS 280 rad
    - 4x Misc 120-240 Rads
    - 11x Delta Fans (7x 120x38mm 2200-4500rpm up to 133cfm 14.25mmH2O, 4x 120x25 2400-4800rpm up to 155cfm 15.2mmH2O)
    - 5x NIDEC Fans (120x38mm 0.98amps 11.5-13.2V, up to 4250rpm 151cfm 22.32mmH2O)
    - >50x Misc 80x15/25/38mm, 92x25/38mm, 120x12/25/38mm, 140x25mm Fans

    I have been looking for two things: a Motherboard and a GPU (or pair of GPU's), and while this will be a Home Server/Media Server, it will also function as a F@H box. I am thinking that 2x 9800GTX+'s or 2x GTX260 216core's in SLI would suffice, but perhaps not? I don't know much about the C2D/C2Q era MB's/GPU's....

    I have been looking at the following boards:
    - Asus P5Q Premium (huge amount of connections, would allow 4x GPU's for F@H or 3xGPU + 1x RAID Card)
    - Asus Maximus Extreme
    - Asus Rampage Extreme

    For GPU's, I've been really considering the following, from lowest cost to highest:
    - 2-3x 8800GTS 512MB (G92)
    - 3x 8800GTX's
    - 2-3x 9800GT's
    - 2-3x 9800GTX+'s
    - 2x 9800GTX2's
    - 2-3x GTX260(216core)-to-GTX295's
    - 2-3x GTX460's-to-GTX480's

    Anyone remember enough about this older hardware to help me out?

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